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A podcast for the discussion of all things Dragon Ball. From the original Dragon Ball manga, to Dragon Ball Super, everything in between and beyond join cohosts Jelli and Bekinney as they delve into the world of Akira Toriyama, and discuss lesser-known facts about the worldwide manga and anime phenomenon that is one of the most well-known and popular Japanese pop culture exports of all-time. We‘ll discuss culture importance of moments, literary inspirations behind scenes and characters, production facts, and more. Whether you‘re a fan of Goku, Vegeta, or any of the cast of characters including Piccolo, Krillin, Gohan, Frieza, or even Broly, there should be something for you to enjoy. We are two life-long fans of the franchise and wanted to transform our fan status from low level warrior to Super Saiyan, so join us as we delve into the world of Dragon Ball and not only meet our fictional characters, but also discuss the creative minds behind them such as composers Shinsuke Kikuchi and Bruce Faulconer, directors like Daisuke Nishio and Tatsuya Nagamine, editors/writers Kazuhiko Torishima and Toyotarou, voice actors like Masako Nozawa, Sean Schemmel, and Chris Sabat, and of course, Akira Toriyama himself. We released every other week with discussions lasting about 40-60 minutes. We‘ll have discussions, guests, interviews, reviews, and commentaries so grab a senzu bean, channel your ki, and get ready to learn about Kakarot and his friends, and of course, thank you for helping us achieve our FINAL FORUM...We hear it‘s over 9000.
Episodes
7 days ago
7 days ago
Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 118, 119, 120, and 121, , "Prelude to Vengeance," "Battle Cry," "Goku Strikes Back," and "The Biggest Crisis." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and discuss the concept of achieving salvation by traveling through hell via the fight between Goku and Piccolo.
In this episode:
- Jelli and Bekinney are reeling from their call with Frieza
- We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments
- Comparisons between the moves here and those seen in some Akira Kurosawa movies, Sanshiro Sugata (1 and 2) as well the Ultraman series with Ultraseven
- Power level tropes being utilized
- Goku fulfilling Uranai Baba's prophecy
- Goku taunting Piccolo using a childlike phrase
- Japanese voice actor Aono Takeshi (for Piccolo) setting a precedent for Sean Schemmel and Chris Sabat by almost passing out in the recording booth
- The trials of The Buddha, Jesus Christ, and Dante Alleghiri with regards to achieving salvation
- Discussing saru, Japanese for monkey, and how monkeys are seen as demon repellants
- Discussing May 9th, Goku Day...or Piccolo Day...
- How monkeys play into Buddhism
- Another pivot, slight though it may be, of Dragon Ball's tone and style
- and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual
Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.
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Tuesday Apr 09, 2024
Episode 62 (S3E7) - Senzu and Divine Water
Tuesday Apr 09, 2024
Tuesday Apr 09, 2024
Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 114, 115, 116, and 117, , "Conquest and Power," "Awaken Darkness," "A Taste of Destiny," and "The Ultimate Sacrifice." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and discuss the concept of Senzu beans and how they work.
In this episode:
- Jelli and Bekinney are prepping to return to their adventures, and a surprise call awaits them at the end...
- We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments
- The story of Emperor Win Shihuang who ruled China in the 200s BC
- The idea of the denshija and how it externalizes Piccolo's innermost fears
- If there might perhaps be a parallel between Pilaf and Majin Buu...or more accurately Babidi
- King Furry's resemblance to Teddy Roosevelt
- The meaning of senzu
- Tautologies
- The origin of senzu from Daoist practices
- Gross.
- The compounding effects of senzu
- Ultra Divine Water or Super God Water
- The root of the terms
- Connections to Daoist fasting
- Discussions of alchemy
- and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual
Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.
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Tuesday Mar 26, 2024
Episode 61(S3E5) 2024 March Madness Tenkaichi Tournament (2 of 2)
Tuesday Mar 26, 2024
Tuesday Mar 26, 2024
Jelli and Bekinney continue their break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon, and pivot away from tearing into the manga and anime that are the most crucial parts of the Dragon Ball franchise to have a little themed fun!
In this episode:
- It's TOURNAMENT SEASON! Kick off your shoes, relax, and listen as we break down 32 of Dragon Ball's most popular (?) characters and discuss who would win in a theoretical game of one-on-one Halo.
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- We take if from the round of 32, down to the Sweet 16, Head into the Elite Eight, jump into the Final Four, and then choose our champion!
- Who will reign supreme and be declared the number one under heaven in 1-on-1 basketball?
Join us as we take a break from uncovering the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise and have some March Madness themed fun!
Tuesday Mar 19, 2024
Episode 60(S3E5) 2024 March Madness Tenkaichi Tournament (1 of 2)
Tuesday Mar 19, 2024
Tuesday Mar 19, 2024
Jelli and Bekinney take a break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon, and pivot away from tearing into the manga and anime that are the most crucial parts of the Dragon Ball franchise to have a little themed fun!
In this episode:
- It's TOURNAMENT SEASON! Kick off your shoes, relax, and listen as we break down 64 of Dragon Ball's most popular (?) characters and discuss who would win in a theoretical episode of Iron Chef.
- We discuss the system used for determining outcomes.
- We break down our opponents in each matchup.
- In the Saiyan Region: Will Goku topple Tarble, will Vegeta defeat Paragus, who will win when Broly encounters Goten? Will the timeline handle Future Trunks facing off against his younger self? Can Gohan defeat King Vegeta? Can Cabba beat Bardock? Can Kale topple Nappa? Will Caulifla be able to defeat Raditz?
- In the Earthling Region:
- Krillin vs Yajirobe, Bulma vs Chiaotzu, Android 17 vs Ox King, Android 18 vs Mr Satan, Yamcha vs Chichi, Tien vs Nam, Android 16 vs Videl, Master Roshi vs Launch
- In the Villains Region: Can Frieza out-fox Mercenary Tao? Will Hit topple Recoome? Will Zamasu throttle King Cold? Who is more nefarious, Cooler or Pilaf? Who has the mad skills, Ginyu or Dabura? Will Buu beat down Android 19? Will Jiren smash Dr Gero? Can Cell prove to be more perfect than Garlic Jr?
- In the Deity/Ally Region:
- Who will win when Beerus, Oolong, Korin, Mr Popo, Nail, Elder Kai, Supreme Kai Shin, Puar, King Kai, Gregory, Dende, Kabito, Kami, King Yemma, Piccolo, and Jaco all face off?
Join us as we take a break from uncovering the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise and have some March Madness themed fun!
Tuesday Mar 12, 2024
RIP Akira Toriyama 1955-2024
Tuesday Mar 12, 2024
Tuesday Mar 12, 2024
On this episode of Final Forum, we discuss the recent, unfortunate, and untimely passing of Akira Toriyama, and do our best to talk about what his works, from Dragon Ball, to Dr. Slump, to Dragon Quest, to Chrono Trigger, meant to us, and attempt to parse this news as best we can.
We were joined on this episode by our friend Lux Edwards (Soulmass218 Linktree).
Tuesday Feb 27, 2024
Episode 59 (S3E4) - Demon King Piccolo
Tuesday Feb 27, 2024
Tuesday Feb 27, 2024
Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 110, 111, 112 and 113, , "Piccolo Closes In," "Roshi's Gambit," "King Piccolo's Wish," and "Siege on Chow Castle." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and discuss the "man" of the hour himself: Great Demon King Piccolo (orPiccolo Daimao).
In this episode:
- Jelli and Bekinney are returning to Frieza Force controlled space
- We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments
- Discussing the puns of Piccolo's name as well as the meaning of Daimao
- Drawing a parallel between Piccolo's airship and the Hayao Miyazaki movie Castle in the Sky
- Kazuhiko Torishima's inspiration that led Akira Toriyama to create Piccolo
- How Piccolo attacking martial artists parallels real life demons fearing Daoist, Buddhist, and Shintoist priests
- The origins of the Pokopen chant that's done when Piccolo gives birth
- The importance of Piccolo having only four fingers
- A discussion of the burakumin, and why the anime staff MAY have changed Piccolo's design prior to animating him in the show
- and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual
Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.
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Tuesday Feb 13, 2024
Episode 58 (S3E3) - Piccolo’s Children
Tuesday Feb 13, 2024
Tuesday Feb 13, 2024
Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 108 and 109, , "Goku's Revenge," and "Goku vs. King Piccolo." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and break down Piccolo's Children, Tambourine, Cymbal, Drum and Piano (and more).
In this episode:
- Jelli and Bekinney are trying to find a way off the planet where they are stranded
- We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments
- Discussing puns, Piccolo, Drum, Piano, Cymbal and Tambourine
- Mentioning Piccolo's non-canon children, Ukulele, Harp, Mandolin, Maraca, Organ, Castanets, Harmonica, and Bongo, and their appearances in video games, including Damaio Fukkatsu
- Breaking down Tambourine, his voice actors Dameon Clarke and Ryusei Nakao and their connections to other characters like Frieza, Cell, Krillin, Nuova Shenron and Eis Shenron
- Discussing Cymbal, his voice actors Brad Jackson and Daisuke Gori, and their connections to other characters including Ox King, Turtle, Ghastiel, InoShikaCho, Drum, King Yemma, Porunga, Mr. Sata and King Cold
- Drum, his voice actors Daisuke Gori and Bob Carter, and Carter's voicing of Bojack and Syn Shenron
- Piano, his voice actors Masato Hirano and Sonny Strait and their connections to Man Wolf, Mummy-kun, Bardock, General Blue, and Krillin
- The Mazoku race and breaking down the word and how mazoku differ from yokai or oni
- Why Piccolo's children are not mere Namekian clones
- and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual
Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.
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Tuesday Jan 30, 2024
Episode 57 (S3E2) - Yajirobe
Tuesday Jan 30, 2024
Tuesday Jan 30, 2024
Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 105, 106 and 107, "Here Comes Yajirobe," "Terrible Tambourine," and "Tien's Atonement." We continue on with Demon King Piccolo Saga, and introduce a new character, Yajirobe.
In this episode:
- Jelli digs Bekinney out of the cold, cold ground
- We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments
- Yajirobe's design inspirations, coming from the Akira Kurosawa film Yojimbo and the actor Daisuke Kato
- A note about a first when it comes to a fight within Dragon Ball, between Yajirobe and Cymbal
- Yajirobe's swordsman skills
- What Yajirobe means in Japanese both as a toy (Circus Sam) and in breaking down the characters that make up the name
- Yajirobe's status as a Ronin and inspiration from the real life historical figure Musashi Miyamoto
- How Kurosawa redefined the narrative around Ronin
- and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual
Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.
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Tuesday Jan 16, 2024
Episode 56 (S3E1) - Evil Containment
Tuesday Jan 16, 2024
Tuesday Jan 16, 2024
Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by breaking down episodes 102, 103 and 104, "Enter King Piccolo," "Tambourine Attacks!" and "Mark of the Demon." We leave the 22nd Budokai Tenkaichi behind, and delve into the Demon King Piccolo Saga, starting out with the idea of the Evil Containment Wave, or the Mafuba.
In this episode:
- Jelli and Bekinney collect themselves after a harsh battle
- We recap the episodes and discuss our favorite moments
- Some notes on the episodes about translations with Master Mutaito and Master Roshi, timeline items with Master Shen (Crane Hermit) and Chiaotzu, canon issues regarding Piccolo's Namekian heritage, and some censorship notes
- We talk about Master Mutaito and the origin of his name
- Looking at Mutaito's gi
- Mafuba, and breaking down the word and its translation as Evil Containment Wave
- How Daoists, Buddhists, and Shintoists inspired the Mafuba
- The origins of sealing demons or foes in general for centuries, with a few examples from Journey to the West (Laozi sealing Sun Wukong within the heavenly crucible and Buddha trapping him under a mountain)
- The Japanese art of onmyodo
- How runes become jewelry in Japan
- Toriyama's playful nature in having Piccolo sealed within the denshi-ja (electric rice cooker)
- A look ahead at the arc and our initial impressions
- and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual
Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.
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Tuesday Jan 02, 2024
Episode 55 (S2E35) - Season Two Finale - The Battle of the Bekinneys
Tuesday Jan 02, 2024
Tuesday Jan 02, 2024
Jelli and Bekinney have no time to continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime Dragon Ball.
In this episode:
- The climactic battle!
Join us and find out if we will ever continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.
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